I am sure that, in no way does he intend to promote the idea that God is no longer in the 'business', or has the ability, of doing what God does, which is, being GOD.
Dave Ulrick is The In(scrutable) One. I don't know if he has effectively abandoned his blog, but he has not posted for several years. Several years ago, he and I were members of a Yahoo Discussion Group - which has since dis-banded.
Anyway, Dave has several interesting and insightful articles, having abandoned the charismatic movement after recognizing the failure(s) to achieve the claims - even those he himself readily made. The post that I link to (HERE) relates to the 'large picture' intention of God, relevant to the question of the 'early church', and whether or not the contemporary church has a mandate to operate in exact equivalence to that church. In other words, is there any true sense in which there is a God-intended cessation of sign-gifts? Dave contends (as do I) that God is now doing things in a way that 'had its infancy' in the 'infant church', but no longer remains to be the way in which He 'conducts church'.
I can already hear the loud and persistent protestations. I know the pro and con argumentation(s). The only 'dog' that I might have in this fight is that evidence for equivalence is scant to non-existent. I do not contend that Jesus Christ "is (not) the same, yesterday, today, and forever". God is not changeable. It is, however, incontrovertably true, that He does not manifest Himself in all ways, in all places, and at all times, in the exact same way - gazillions of TV charlatans to the contrary, notwithstanding.
I have no doubt that you could spend many profitable hours perusing articles such as the 'bottom' post (scroll to bottom of page) to Dave's March, 2005 archive: My theological journey (nutshell sized).
And, the, also bottom, post in the May, 2005 archive: Charismania is dangerous to your health.
I know that Word-Faith heretical distinctives do not accurately address the 'historical pentecostal perspectives'. For that, I hope to provide, as a corrective endeavor (:>), a link to an excellent sermon - perhaps tomorrow. Stay tuned.
Dave Ulrick is The In(scrutable) One. I don't know if he has effectively abandoned his blog, but he has not posted for several years. Several years ago, he and I were members of a Yahoo Discussion Group - which has since dis-banded.
Anyway, Dave has several interesting and insightful articles, having abandoned the charismatic movement after recognizing the failure(s) to achieve the claims - even those he himself readily made. The post that I link to (HERE) relates to the 'large picture' intention of God, relevant to the question of the 'early church', and whether or not the contemporary church has a mandate to operate in exact equivalence to that church. In other words, is there any true sense in which there is a God-intended cessation of sign-gifts? Dave contends (as do I) that God is now doing things in a way that 'had its infancy' in the 'infant church', but no longer remains to be the way in which He 'conducts church'.
I can already hear the loud and persistent protestations. I know the pro and con argumentation(s). The only 'dog' that I might have in this fight is that evidence for equivalence is scant to non-existent. I do not contend that Jesus Christ "is (not) the same, yesterday, today, and forever". God is not changeable. It is, however, incontrovertably true, that He does not manifest Himself in all ways, in all places, and at all times, in the exact same way - gazillions of TV charlatans to the contrary, notwithstanding.
I have no doubt that you could spend many profitable hours perusing articles such as the 'bottom' post (scroll to bottom of page) to Dave's March, 2005 archive: My theological journey (nutshell sized).
And, the, also bottom, post in the May, 2005 archive: Charismania is dangerous to your health.
I know that Word-Faith heretical distinctives do not accurately address the 'historical pentecostal perspectives'. For that, I hope to provide, as a corrective endeavor (:>), a link to an excellent sermon - perhaps tomorrow. Stay tuned.
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